Post by XMonsterModsX on Feb 4, 2014 23:55:55 GMT -8
THIS GUIDE ALSO WORKS WITH SLIM PROTO V2. Differences:
There are now jumpers instead of solder bridges for D1
ROL pad is included (same feature as CR3 Pro)
CR_EN now has a solder pad
Now includes the double shielded pro cpu_rst cable - grounded and shrink wrapped for optimum results
Everything else works the same as v1
SLIM PROTO - Tuning Guide
The Slim Prototype is a new project we thought up where instead of waiting weeks and months for our next product we would let VIP members into the test process. We make it available at almost cost price and for that we simply ask that you give as much test feedback as possible.
Those that give exceptional feedback will be noticed and singled out for non-public tests
The Slim Proto Kit includes the following items
Xecuter Slim Proto Dev Board
Xecuter POST SLIM QSB v3
Ceramic Cap Kit (10pf, 22pf, 30pf, 47pf, 68pf, 82pf, 100pf)
CR3 Pro Install Wires (Optional if no Trinity/ Corona QSB's are Used)
INSTALL
Installation is pretty much the same as the CR3 PRO.
Solder Points
(C) yellow wire to post_out solder pad on bottom side POST QSB V3 (goto Direct post_out pad as default (labelled as 1) For tuning you can use 50, 70, 90, 120 - I find 50 works best with Trinity / Corona v1/v2
(D) blue wire to cpu_rst solder pad on bottom side POST QSB V3 (goto CPU_RST pad as default (no length is added in the PCB - you have multiple lengths to choose from when fine tuning - 29, 32, 35, 38, 41, 44, 47, 50
(E) Short green wire to top side qsb, i2c SCL signal.
(F) Short brown wire to top side qsb, i2c SDA signal.
(5v) Short red wire, thick to top side 5v Standby
(gnd) Longer black wire, thick to AV chassis.
DIP SWITCH SETTINGS
The Slim Proto has 8 dips.
DIPS 1 to 6 are used to adjust timing and the cpu_rst wave shape.
DIP 7 is reserved (must be off)
DIP 8 select i2c type, off = trinity, on = corona.
POST QSB V3
Yellow are the POST_OUT points
Blue are the CPU_RST points
POST_OUT: Recommended wire length is 12cm. You can then use the POST QSB V3 to adjust to various lengths to help shape the wave.
CPU_RST: Recommended wire length is 10cm. You can then use the POST QSB V3 to adjust to various lengths to help shape the wave.
First you need to find your center:
IMPORTANT NOTE: When testing each cycle make sure you hook everything back up to the case (ODD, HDD, WIFI etc). If you dont do this your tuning will be wasted as when you hook everything back up it changes the shape of the pulse. Take your time and do it right and you will get a super fast booting RGH console
1. For the first initial test set DIP 8 to the motherboard type
2. Don't install any ceramic caps yet. Set DIP 3 on and test your boot cycle. Each cycle is 5 seconds so count. If you go above 4 cycles (20 seconds) change your dip setting.
3. If not set DIP 4 and test...
4. If not set DIP 5 and test...
5. and so on with DIPS 6 then 1 and 2...
6. We're basically circling out from what we know is optimum. You are looking for 1-2 cycles max with this device (with tuning)
So let's say you landed on DIP 4 as your center you will now want to tune up......
1. Add a ceramic cap to C10 with 1 DIP on (note a 1 cap per DIP cannot be higher than 50pf - anything higher will absorb the pulse)
2. So start with a 10pf cap and test. Then 22pf then 30pf then 47pf
3. Sometimes you may need to tweak even further than just 1 DIP and use a combo. So for example if you found DIP 3 and DIP 4 to be the same you can try 3.5. We achieve this be setting DIP 2 & 3 on with a large ceramic cap to delay and absorb the pulse (so 2 DIPS and a large cap equals 1.5 pulse time - we found this works great on many Corona v3/v4/v5/v6
4. So to achieve 3.5 set DIPS 2 & 3 on and test with caps 68pf, 82pf and 100pf.
Here are some examples of settings:
Trinity:
POST_OUT - Try 50 as default. Your other options are 1 (Direct), 70, 90 & 120
1. DIP 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
2. DIP 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
3. DIPS 4, 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : 82pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
4. DIPS 4, 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : 100pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
4. DIP 6 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
Corona:
POST_OUT - Try 50 as default. Your other options are 1 (Direct), 70, 90 & 120 (These are also available on the POSTFIX ADAPTER V2 for Corona v3/v4/v5/v6)
1. DIPS 3, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
2. DIPS 4, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
3. DIPS 3, 4, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3: 100pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
4. DIPS 4 , 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : 47pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
5. DIPS 2, 3, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
Also post tests results with this jumper bridged (and unbridged)
There are now jumpers instead of solder bridges for D1
ROL pad is included (same feature as CR3 Pro)
CR_EN now has a solder pad
Now includes the double shielded pro cpu_rst cable - grounded and shrink wrapped for optimum results
Everything else works the same as v1
SLIM PROTO - Tuning Guide
The Slim Prototype is a new project we thought up where instead of waiting weeks and months for our next product we would let VIP members into the test process. We make it available at almost cost price and for that we simply ask that you give as much test feedback as possible.
Those that give exceptional feedback will be noticed and singled out for non-public tests
The Slim Proto Kit includes the following items
Xecuter Slim Proto Dev Board
Xecuter POST SLIM QSB v3
Ceramic Cap Kit (10pf, 22pf, 30pf, 47pf, 68pf, 82pf, 100pf)
CR3 Pro Install Wires (Optional if no Trinity/ Corona QSB's are Used)
INSTALL
Installation is pretty much the same as the CR3 PRO.
Solder Points
(C) yellow wire to post_out solder pad on bottom side POST QSB V3 (goto Direct post_out pad as default (labelled as 1) For tuning you can use 50, 70, 90, 120 - I find 50 works best with Trinity / Corona v1/v2
(D) blue wire to cpu_rst solder pad on bottom side POST QSB V3 (goto CPU_RST pad as default (no length is added in the PCB - you have multiple lengths to choose from when fine tuning - 29, 32, 35, 38, 41, 44, 47, 50
(E) Short green wire to top side qsb, i2c SCL signal.
(F) Short brown wire to top side qsb, i2c SDA signal.
(5v) Short red wire, thick to top side 5v Standby
(gnd) Longer black wire, thick to AV chassis.
DIP SWITCH SETTINGS
The Slim Proto has 8 dips.
DIPS 1 to 6 are used to adjust timing and the cpu_rst wave shape.
DIP 7 is reserved (must be off)
DIP 8 select i2c type, off = trinity, on = corona.
POST QSB V3
Yellow are the POST_OUT points
Blue are the CPU_RST points
POST_OUT: Recommended wire length is 12cm. You can then use the POST QSB V3 to adjust to various lengths to help shape the wave.
CPU_RST: Recommended wire length is 10cm. You can then use the POST QSB V3 to adjust to various lengths to help shape the wave.
First you need to find your center:
IMPORTANT NOTE: When testing each cycle make sure you hook everything back up to the case (ODD, HDD, WIFI etc). If you dont do this your tuning will be wasted as when you hook everything back up it changes the shape of the pulse. Take your time and do it right and you will get a super fast booting RGH console
1. For the first initial test set DIP 8 to the motherboard type
2. Don't install any ceramic caps yet. Set DIP 3 on and test your boot cycle. Each cycle is 5 seconds so count. If you go above 4 cycles (20 seconds) change your dip setting.
3. If not set DIP 4 and test...
4. If not set DIP 5 and test...
5. and so on with DIPS 6 then 1 and 2...
6. We're basically circling out from what we know is optimum. You are looking for 1-2 cycles max with this device (with tuning)
So let's say you landed on DIP 4 as your center you will now want to tune up......
1. Add a ceramic cap to C10 with 1 DIP on (note a 1 cap per DIP cannot be higher than 50pf - anything higher will absorb the pulse)
2. So start with a 10pf cap and test. Then 22pf then 30pf then 47pf
3. Sometimes you may need to tweak even further than just 1 DIP and use a combo. So for example if you found DIP 3 and DIP 4 to be the same you can try 3.5. We achieve this be setting DIP 2 & 3 on with a large ceramic cap to delay and absorb the pulse (so 2 DIPS and a large cap equals 1.5 pulse time - we found this works great on many Corona v3/v4/v5/v6
4. So to achieve 3.5 set DIPS 2 & 3 on and test with caps 68pf, 82pf and 100pf.
Here are some examples of settings:
Trinity:
POST_OUT - Try 50 as default. Your other options are 1 (Direct), 70, 90 & 120
1. DIP 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
2. DIP 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
3. DIPS 4, 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : 82pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
4. DIPS 4, 5 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : 100pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
4. DIP 6 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
Corona:
POST_OUT - Try 50 as default. Your other options are 1 (Direct), 70, 90 & 120 (These are also available on the POSTFIX ADAPTER V2 for Corona v3/v4/v5/v6)
1. DIPS 3, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
2. DIPS 4, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
3. DIPS 3, 4, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3: 100pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
4. DIPS 4 , 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (29) pad on the POST QSB V3 : 47pf ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
5. DIPS 2, 3, 8 = on : 10 cm wire to (CPU_RST) pad on the POST QSB V3 : NO ceramic cap installed to Slim Proto
Also post tests results with this jumper bridged (and unbridged)
